Surprisingly, I’ve heard many people complaining about the relatively recent development of foreign players coming to Denmark. Actually, to be more accurate, I’ve heard lots of complaints about clubs that “buy” players in order to become successful. Coming to Marienlyst last year, it was only natural that I would hear that a few times. So, let’s examine the idea of professional clubs in Denmark and see what the positives and negatives are.
In my mind the biggest change that professional players have made to the club system has to do with money. Immediately, it became clear who had money and who didn’t. It also became clear which clubs had ambitions and which clubs were content with remaining as they were. As I’ve argued earlier, foreign players seem to be here to stay in Denmark. What does that mean for the elite division? Well, in my mind it means two things. To be competitive, teams will have to improve their rosters. Whether that means looking outside of Denmark or not remains to be seen. Already in the last two to three years we have seen a tremendous refocusing on youth volleyball and on developing players from the inside. Teams like Gentofte and Lyngby have wonderful youth programs which will bare fruit in the coming years. If teams are unable or unwilling to develop their own players, then they will be forced to find players from outside of the country. What does that mean? They will have to find money to pay them and that means they will have to work doubly hard finding sponsors and drawing fans/attention to the sport. In this case, competition absolutely breeds competition. It also means that teams will have to provide a strong, stabile, professional environment for their players if they expect them to remain a part of the club. (This is a topic for another post so I won’t get into it now) In any case, I see all of these things as a positive for Danish volleyball.
What do foreigners offer the league?
Most foreigners that I know are required to help out at the club they play at, usually coaching. That means new ideas. As a foreigner I know that I have learned a lot about volleyball in my time here. The more viewpoints we have and are able to assimilate, the more our collective volleyball knowledge grows. Foreigners bring new ideas and new viewpoints to the game. They also learn new things. In this sense, volleyball in Denmark can only benefit. Let’s take a look at a concrete example: Makoto from SK Aarhus is playing and assistant coaching for their elite team. There is no doubt that he has brought some fresh insights into playing volleyball. He plays the game differently than most and if we can all learn to take something from that then we have all reaped the benefits.
Foreigners raise the level of play. If you look at the top teams from the last three years you will find that most of them have had at least one foreign player. This is not only an external phenomenon, by that I mean teams beating other teams because of their foreigners, it is definitely an internal phenomenon as well. Foreign players generally help to raise the level of the other players on their own team. I know this was the case while I played in Aarhus and it is definitely the case in Middelfart right now.
In many ways, professional players add spice to volleyball in Denmark. Think of it as an infusion of new neighbors into what is a fairly small community in the first place. Volleyball in Denmark is small and everyone knows each other. Foreigners not only offer good volleyball, they offer excitement and, most of all, entertainment in several ways. If anyone saw my first Danish speaking interview last year then they know all about that entertainment factor that I’m talking about… But, whether it is a new outrageous personality, or Geo Santos hitting ceiling balls in warm-ups the point is that each year there is something new and fresh to see and that can never be bad for the sport.
What are the dangers?
Money, money, money. The danger is that certain teams will have all the power and other teams will have nothing. Essentially destroying any possibility for a league with any excitement. This has happened in a lots of sports leagues around Europe: Belgium has Maaseik and Roeselare in volley, SAS ligaen has FCK and Brøndby, etc… You can’t punish a team for their ambition their ability, sometimes things like this happen. Then it is up to the other teams to do what they can to catch them.
Some Danish players might get lost in the shuffle. A couple of years ago, Middelfart brought in a foreign setter instead of letting Martin Stenderup develop into their main setter. The more foreigners there are in the league, the more there is a risk of Danish players taking a back seat. On the other hand, if those players, especially the young ones, look at it as a learning experience they could get quite a bit out of it. I’m sure Martin learned quite a bit from Lee when he was here even if he wasn’t on the court very much. Now, he has his chance to prove that he deserves to be playing all the time. Development doesn’t necessarily have to happen during matches. A certain amount of court time is necessary for experience, but if you are good enough to do it you will get your chance when the time is right.
Clubs will be able to “buy” championships if they have enough money. This statement is clearly and directly untrue. There is always talk of this in lots of different sports and it is simply not true. The teams that spend the most money on talent almost never win championships. Real Madrid? This year’s New York Yankees? A good example from last year was Middelfart. They had three foreigners. Three! And they could barely manage to stay in the Elite division. Now, they have two foreigners and several new Danish players and they are one of the top teams in the league. It is and always will be team chemistry, stabile management, strong training environment and effective coaching that separate the really good teams from those that just have money. Yes, you do have to have players with ability, but there are plenty of quality players out there to be had.
I think it is fair to say that since I have been in Denmark, this year is the best the entire league has looked as far as level of play. There are at least five teams playing nice volleyball. There are also several teams that are building up their young players for the future. None of these things are bad. Foreigners have had an impact on the sport and in my opinion the impact has been positive. Does that mean that Denmark could, or even should, have a full time professional league in the future? I don’t have an answer for that and I think the first step is to get more people interested/invested in the game. But I will ask this: Isn’t that the dream for almost all of the young athletes in the country? To go and play for a team professionally in another country? Wouldn’t it be great if those same kids could dream of playing for SK Aarhus or Marienlyst or Gentofte one day instead?
Thursday, October 27, 2005
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Hove,
Obviously this is an interesting topic for me so I am glad that you brought it up. First of all I think it is vital that the teams start with a good base of Danish players in order to have a good team. Like Marienlyst and Aalborg the past few years, having good Danish players and getting foreigners to fill in the holes. The reality is that Denmark is a small country and does not have enough good players to support a league with ten solid teams. As you mentioned, Belgium has twice the population, a much greater interest in volleyball and still only have 5-8 teams that can really consider themselves any 'good' with regards to teams in Europe. Obviously it is important to develop Danish players and talent, and if they are good enough they will seperate themselves out as strong players regardless of who is on the team. Maybe it is not natural for Danish teams to have 12-14 players on a team fighting for positions and of course, 6 good players will be sitting on the bench. But realistically this needs to happen to have a good team...training 10 hours a week in this environment will win out over the 1.5 hours of game time during that same week in my opinion. If the players have ambitions to be good they will step up to the plate and take the challenge to earn their spot on the court, and if they don't they aren't ready to make an impact in the league yet. Maybe I feel this way because I came from University sport where we had a minimum of 14 players each year, two guys which were 'red shirts' and one guy who couldn't travel as only 11 could go to away games. That's life my friend, some guys just won't cut it. Like you said in your article, competition breeds competition and training in this environment can only raise the level. Right now no rules are really needed to control the number foreigners (besides maybe a signing date so players can not only be picked up for the last games of the year) because clubs just don't have the money. Look at other leagues though, Belgium has the three foreigner rule, in Italy they must have 3 (I believe) Italian nationals on the court at all times (correct me if I am wrong Diego) but these are steps that can be taken if it gets out of hand, but I don't see that happening for years to come. So as for now I think you have to see the increasing number of foreigners as a positive for increasing the level of competition in the Danish league.
Chad
I dont think anyone in denmark really is against foreign players.
Sure there is some whining once in a while, but noone in their right mind would be without the foreigners.
However there is a issue with the money because if some club has money, they can buy pretty much every danish player. And it makes it very uncertain to be a club that works with youths since they can dissappear from one day to the other - but as i see it there is no way around it since we also want to have the sport grow and be more spectacular.
btw if i wanted to spend 10 million dkr, i can guarantie you that i would win the cup and championships for both men and women at the same time :).
But personally i think its a fantastic thing with the foreign players. it wont be something we do, but we sure like to play against them. (and sometimes whine).
However one thing thats a problem around the copenhagen area is simply that sponsors are pretty much impossible to get, so as it is now copenhagen or sjælland will have a hard time competing in the long run.
But all things considered, foreign players is a great development in danish volleybal..
/william
Just few words....It's true now in Italy in A1 we must have 3 Italian players in the court all time, but this is a project that started 3-4 years ago, incerasing the number of Italian players every year. In A2 there cannot be more than 3 foreigners (I guess), in B1 there canno be foreigners (at least only if they have the Italian citizenship too)...and the B1 is easly much more better than the Danish one.
Why do we do that?
Because we started to have all the Dutch national team players in the late 90s, we teached them how to play and they won the Olympic games in Atlanta. Later we focused on Serbian...and we also lost the Olympic games in Sidney, so let's try the Brasilians, and now Brasil is winning every competition all around the world.
That's not the Denmark problem, I think the Federation now should start thinking how to improve volley-ball from the bottom, involving kids and youth to make them enter in the gyms and to realize that it's not only handball, or basketball at least.
It's a great thnk too that the foreigners can coach too, but this bring to another problem in my opinion, that the coach figure is not specialized. You don't even need a "volleyball" education to coach a team.
What can I say more? If I knew 5-6 years ago that I could have played outside Italy, still palying at my level, I wouldn't have waited a second to prepare my loggage and start travelling!!!
I agree with William that it is too bad for the teams that develop the players to have them leave for greener pastures. Unfortunately some teams are good at developing players but have no long term plans to keep them. Alot of other countries require a transfer fee to be paid if they have developed a player for 'X' number of years...they are in a way selling the talent they have developed so they get something back for this. It wouldn't have to be much but could this be not be a help in solving this dilemna?
Chad
Chad,
I really think you get the point.
Here in Denmark the clubs are not protected at all from other club that are interested in their players. It's sounds wierd but few examples help the idea.
Geir Eithun was playing for us, Conegliano got in touch with him and he decided to go. What does SK Arhus earned? Nothing.
Axel was playing with us, now he's in Pineto and this society just played the international transfer at the CEV. What about us? Nothing.
The clubs must be the owners of the players, not the federation.
Makoto is with us, but what about if an Italian, a Russian or a French team wants him in january? They just call him and send him a contract.
Someone wants Mikkel Simonsen. Do you think they gonna ask Middelfart if you want to sell him? No way, they call him and they get an agreement. These are little but enormously important steps to be taken to make the volleyball profesionalize in DK.
Chad,
I absolutely agree that as soon as teams experience what it is like to have 12-14 players at every practice (at my university we had 22 or so, almost a whole court that the coach wouldn't really look at during training) they won't be able to go back to the old way. There is so much that you can get out of practice when you can match up two fairly even teams against each other. Especially when the players on those teams are competing with each other for playing time. It would also be then that true development of players can happen.
Chad and Diego,
I've also always believed that a professional league needs to look out for its own country members. I'm not as radical as Japan (with only one foreign player allowed per team) but I can definitely understand where they are coming from. I would say something in the range of 2 to 3 is nice. Looking at leagues like Austria where there are almost NO Austrian players is kind of sad.
William,
As far as players leaving for different clubs, I do think that it could be fair to ask for some kind of transfer fee. Of course this could only happen once there is a kind of professional system in place. Players would have to be under some kind of contract before it would be fair to ask for a transfer fee. Players need to have some rights here as well. I plan on writing something about club loyalty at some point (and I'm sure I will get blasted for what I write) but for now, I would like to say that in my mind it is unfair for a club to expect a player to be loyal to a club forever just because it is where they started. Yes, the club helped develop them. Yes, it is important to remember your roots. But, it is also dumb to have players stuck in situations that where they cannot develop further or where they feel unhappy. Nobody wins in a situation like that. That is just a quick thought and I will leave it there. But, I will also say that clubs do deserve some kind of compensation if one of their "own" leaves.
Lastly, the idea that players can just leave in the middle of a season and play somewhere else is absolutely ridiculous. Then again, those players should be under contract. If they aren't then the club has no rights over them. I don't know anything for certain, but I don't believe Geir was being paid. Why in the world would he stay in Aarhus and continue to play for nothing when he has a chance to play in Italy and be well compensated? If you worked in a kiosk and Donald Trump came in and said, "hey, come work for my company, I'll make you my vice president." You're going to pack your shit up and jump on his private jet, champagne in hand. At least, I know I would.
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