Monday, February 18, 2008

A really long, scattered post.

I've been hesitant to write anything about the current situation with our team and the Daniel. I didn't want to comment because in some ways the whole subject is so sensitive. I also, out of respect to Daniel, wanted to wait and hear what he and the club had to say before making any statement of my own. At times like these, I don't know if it is a good or bad thing to have a blog like this one. On one hand, it is nice to have a forum where I can express my feelings and an outlet for all the thoughts that swim around in my head every day, on the other hand, it might not be necessary for others to know how I feel about this.

First thing's first, anything I say about Daniel specifically assumes that the B-sample will also come back positive. Of course, there is always the chance that something got contaminated, but history has proven that this is almost never the case. No matter what I write below, I do believe that Daniel should be punished. I do, however, believe that the punishment should fit the crime and in this case I don't think it does. But I think that will be pretty clear...

Second, I want to state from the beginning that I don't consider this to be a "Doping" case. For me, the term "Doping" connotes someone trying to get a competitive advantage by taking performance enhancing substances. I can't imagine anyone making the argument that this is the case here. Yes, cocaine could hypothetically boost performance in a match, but I just don't buy that someone would choose to use it in this way. It's just not a feasible or believable scenario. No matter what you think about the case, this is the key to everything. Intentionally trying to cheat vs. making a mistake.

So, if it's not "doping", what is it? Well, and I guess this is where I might get in trouble, in my mind it isn't really anything. I think it IS a dumb mistake. And people who claim that it doesn't matter if it was intentional or unintentional - the people who believe rules are rules - are missing the point. I'll be the first to say that anyone who tries to get an advantage on someone else in sports by taking performance enhancing drugs deserves to be punished heavily. However, this is not what happened here. We're not talking about cheating here. We're talking about someone who made a mistake. And as it stands now, someone who is going to pay an incredibly high price for that mistake. There is a HUGE difference between making a mistake and intentionally seeking a chemical advantage. I think we're all paranoid right now because of the prevalence of steroids, human growth hormone and other similar drugs in the sports world. That's why I've been disappointed in the sensational "Doping" headlines that have been flashed across national newspapers and tv screens. It's not right. And it's definitely not "doping".

People have made the argument that it is necessary to protect the integrity of the sports world, that we don't want volleyball to be seen as "dirty". I agree, we don't want that. But how far are we willing to go to uphold that "clean" image? Is it really fair to end someone's career for one mistake?

But, what about the kids? Surely, we don't want to set the wrong example for them, right? True, we don't want to set the wrong example for kids. And no one should make the argument that cocaine is good for you. However, I would argue that it is just as important to show children that there are support systems in place to help them when they make mistakes. Stigmatizing someone and turning your back on them because of one stupid thing that they did is not the way to breed a safe "clean" environment for the future. Yes, sports are about fair play and hard work, but at their best, they are also about teamwork and the way that one player's positive aspects make up for another player's deficiencies. I know that this is an idealistic and perhaps optimistic way of looking at things, but I'm not sure people understand that by casting off our "problem" athletes, we set an example that is just as bad as those that choose to cheat.

Make no mistake, this case is all about societal stigma. It's a matter of what we, as a society, have decided is okay and what is not. Cocaine is attached to all sorts of negative mental images for us. Rightly so. But as far as doping goes, it should not. Is there anyone out there who believes that someone should be given a two year suspension for smoking hash? What about tobacco? What about drinking beer? What about eating French hot dogs? Team Danmark Menu anybody? Cocaine and hash sit right next to each other on the list of banned substances, does that make them equal? Does that make hash equal to HGH or steroids? It's such a pathetic system. We're regulating what our athletes can and can't do in their PRIVATE lives in the name of keeping sports "clean". And I think it's a farce. We do all these things because we want to set a "good" example and the concept just doesn't make sense.

And before people go crazy. No, I don't think that kids should do drugs. No, I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to do drugs. But you know what? I also don't think it's a good idea for people to eat fast food and smoke cigarettes. But they do. It's an ancient argument, but no one has ever satisfactorily argued the case as to why cigarettes, booze and fast food are legal and party drugs are not. What does being an athlete have to do with any of this? When did it become taboo for an athlete to drink a beer and eat a Big Mac? Why can't we teach people to make informed decisions instead of just blacklisting whatever is bad for them?

In order to make all of this more clear, let me explain my understanding of what has happened to Daniel.

1. He made a terrible choice (that clearly did not have anything to do with volleyball) and did something that was against the rules.
2. He got caught.
3. His future as a very good volleyball player has essentially been taken away from him.
4. People feel this is justified as a deterrent/warning to anyone else.

Why is this a good deterrent? The rules were there beforehand and they obviously didn't stop anyone from doing anything in this case. There are numerous current examples of athletes being caught for "doping" and obviously this didn't stop anyone from doing anything. The bottom line is that most people need to experience something for themselves before they can relate to it. People need to think about the extreme nature of the punishment before they judge Daniel. It's not just two years away from the sport. It's two years away from anything physical. No weight lifting. No beach volleyball. Nothing. It's a death sentence for a relatively young career and I can't bring myself to believe that this is justified in any way. It's not about cheating. It's about a mistake. I can't say it enough, a mistake. Yes, a dumb mistake, and a dangerous one at that, but it was not a conscious attempt to cheat. This isn't going to stop anyone from snorting cocaine in the future. If anyone thinks that, they're crazy.

I've always wondered why so called "party" drugs are included in athletic drug testing. It seems to me an unlucky circumstance that they stay in the system longer than other more "accepted" drugs like caffeine, alcohol and tobacco. All of which affect the human system in some way or another, by the way. As was brought to our attention by William on his blog, the metabolites that the body produces to ingest the drug can stay in your system for up to a month. So, why are we testing for those metabolites? Why aren't we testing for the actual drug which stays in your system for 1-3 days? It seems to me that if you want to prevent someone from getting an unfair advantage you'd want to stop them from using the drugs DURING a game - not look as far into their past as possible.

It's funny, this method of testing has actually made the sport look dirtier instead of cleaner. They looked as far as they could into his body history and found something that shouldn't be there. There is absolutely no evidence that he used it to boost his performance. Most indicators point to recreational use, possibly a mistake, possibly the product of someone else slipping something into a drink. But the end result is that the sport looks worse than it did before. For no good reason. The notion, however, that volleyball will be thought of as a "dirty" sport because of this is totally insane. I've played several different sports and I've experienced lots of negatives/positives in each. Just because someone tested positive for a drug doesn't really change my feelings about that sport. Any parent who would be afraid to let their child go to KIDSvolley because of this is daft.

I have another major problem with the system. Why was this made public? Why are we looking for bad publicity for volleyball and adding to the embarrassment of a semi-amateur athlete? I don't understand it. Daniel doesn't make a living from playing volleyball. Why is he being judged as if he does?

Okay, after all that. I'm not afraid to say that I'm possibly more angry with Daniel than almost anyone else. If for nothing else, our team needs him, and he let us down. But, he has apologized and he's taken the negative attention and the punishment like a man. He should be suspended and there should be major consequences. But, two years, essentially ending his career isn't acceptable. It's not an acceptable signal to send to our youth. One strike and you're out isn't right. And I don't know where the line is, three months, six months, maybe a year... Set up a time frame that allows for counseling or whatever else is necessary but let him come back and show that you can make an error and still be productive afterwards. If he tests positive again then he has shown contempt for the sport and for everyone who participates in it, including himself and obviously would deserve a more substantial punishment. But the first positive test does not warrant such a strong response.

The point is that we should be supporting and not blacklisting. We all have an interest in making sure our athletes are clean, but we also have an interest in helping them when they can't live up to our expectations. Athletes are only human and they don't deserve to be treated as examples.

16 comments:

Amanda said...

Isn't the fact that he did cocaine at all showing contempt for the sport?

Anonymous said...

Very good post.

A couple of thoughts i got from reading it:

1. I Totally agree with your view about 2 years being totally over the top,Half a season or a full season of suspension is enough to make a statement of not doing these drugs an still giving the athlete a way back to the sport.

Nomatter the "punishment" it will still be a really tough thing to come back and face all the jokes about the situation thats surfacing in the gyms (a lot of jokes can be made about lines in volleyball).

2.
A small detail that i dont really understand is A) He denies taking cocaine and B) he apologises.
Both things just dont add up.

3.
Anyways my biggest issue from a example and youth coach approach is that we all including Antidoping Denmark are calling it Party drugs.

If anything i think that this is a REALLY bad signal to send to young people. From reading all our posts it could easily be read as Party drugs were drugs you take at a party and i think the name "party drugs" will be what people remember and not the fact that we all are against it.

Im no puritan by any means, but in my mind the term party drugs simply sends such a bad signal.

Anyways, i hope it turns out to be a mistake and if not then i hope you can still keep the impressive level of play in your games the rest of the season.

/William

Unknown said...

Hi Jordan.

This in complete detail shows what I tried to underline in my posts. You just do it better and with more depth and perspective.

I can't do anything but show my FULL support to all of your points.

Daniel should not be punished for "doping" but for making a mistake (or someone elses "mistage" putting it in a drink or otherwise contaminating his body with it?)

An individual should be innocent unless proved otherwise; also in the "ideal world" of sports. How can Daniel EVER be proven guilty of something we can't prove OR for something that is not done with the purpose (or even by himself?) of doping.

Why should athletes be punished for the need of educating the masses or fuiling their need to have personified ideals?

It is crazy and I hope this shows my full support to your post and Daniel himself who I personally contacted to give that support.

Example:

A guy is found dead at a traffic ligth and an owner of a car is found... He admits being in the car that hit the victim but noone saw him either drive the car (was he a passenger?), miss the lights or whatever else could have happened... Is it murder, manslaughter, homicide by misadventure or suicide? Do we punish the guy accordingly with the intent to kill because we want to be safe in traffic?

Or do let that guy take a new drivers license (even though we can't prove he did it which i also stres is also a major issue?)

It's insane, and anyone that can't se it is to full of self righteousness or to keen on setting an example.

The price is just to big for anyone individual to pay no matter what society and the mob want's.

People that are thinking in the best intention of the volleyball community is also missing the picture. One og the foundations of our democracy that leads back to the french revolution is the inviolability of the individuel vs. the need of the masses.

Once again thanks for inspiring the danish volleyball comunity with some intelligence.

Martin

Mikkel Hauge - Headcoach Marienlyst Volley's eliteherrer said...

Hi Jordan

I am glad you came out with your view, which made it easier for a lot of us who finds this drama a little to much. I think I rewrote my blog 3 times yesterday morning, just so I didn't go to far in critisism (I have done that a little to much these weeks;-)

But I agree totally and my first thought in Norway, where I was in the past week was: "How did this become such a big story - who invited press"? I assume that Fyens Stiftstidende as a local paper has an interest, but natinal tv that seldom takes volleyball in. They have to be invited and told the story. We never heard this when the other small sports got similar cases.

Another thought was, how is our federation going to handle this. And is this going to be a "lets show Team Danmark how tough we can be"? Why is Denmark one of the few countries that doesnt take the crime into considaration - is it because of the sportsminister being involved in WADA?

I dont think he is going to have his day in court - his sentence is probably already made. I dont think they judge him, but they will try to make a judgement that fits the political system. Therefore it is not a fair trial, and if I'm right I hope that players and coaches in DK will take part in some kind of protest.

Again - I am not saying it is right to take drugs. But it needs to be a fair system, where punishment is not given upfront. How can a guy from DIF stand up and say this needs to be a 2 years sentence, without influating the current case. In most countries this would be a mistrial....

A fair sentence would be 3-6 months out with a + 2 years if caught again - my opinion!

Mikkel Hauge

Anonymous said...

I absolutely agree with what you say.
Good thing that you said it.

Morten Piil

Anonymous said...

Ja der er skrevet meget og det mest kan man jo kun være enig i, men man er nødtil at holde fat i at regler er regler - Prøv engang at tænk på hvormange regler vi har i volleyball hvor man kan sige ok det det var en dum fejl men det er jo ikke et bevidst forsøg på at snyde modstanderen, men dog en fejl.

Jeg vil da gerne høre i hvilke andre tilfælde vi kan sige regler er ikke regler??

Anonymous said...

Hej

On the following website you can find the danish definition of doping. It's always nice to have your difinitions correct when discussing a subject.

http://www.antidoping.dk/visArtikelEfterDato.asp?artikelId=1067

So cocain will probably not make you a better volleyballplayer but it is doping! A very important definition.

Is it a wrong definition?

Most of the drugs on the dopinglist are there because they in someway make your performance better, but also because they can be a hazard to yourself or teamplayers/components. That is why cocain is doping and not a party drog.
In some sports alcohol i doping. (Eks. Formel 1)

Anonymous said...

To the anonomous guys.

The rules are pretty clear, and we dont contest that.

But if rules really are rules, then why on earth do a fencer only get a warning for taking a illegal substance only 7 days ago ?

http://www.antidoping.dk/visNyhed.asp?artikelID=3731

/William

Anonymous said...

Hove,

I think you did a nice job of writing about this subject. I whole heartedly agree with what you said, punishment - yes, life sentence - no. Look at our Canadian snowboarder that kept his gold medal after testing positive for marijuana (obviously not the same drug but banned nonetheless). We had a similar situation when I was in Belgium in which a guy on the 3rd team (why they test guys in the 3rd division I don't know)tested positive for an illegal but non performance enhancing drug and was suspended for 3 months, I think a little more acceptable than 2 years. Hopefully things will work out and the sport governing body will re-think their priorities. Daniel could help kids and talk about decisions they will be posed with as they grow older. Use this as an educational tool instead of a guillotine. Hope all else is well in the DK.

Ses

Chad

Jordan said...

Hi Everyone, thanks for the comments. Allow me to retort...

Amanda, doing cocaine in general is clearly a problem. Whether or not a grown person has the right to decide what they put in their body is another discussion for another time. But, in my mind, what someone does in their free time is their own business and it has no direct connection to the sport world. I would say that he showed contempt for his own body but not for the sport.

William, I can't speak for Daniel but, your right, denying and apologizing don't seem to go together. What I meant was that he apologized to us on the team and I think it was just a general apology. No matter if he took drugs or not, his situation has caused a big stir and I think one can't help but feel apologetic even if they shouldn't necessarily feel that way.

I do agree that "Party Drug" is probably a dumb term to use. But honestly, in my opinion, if we're going to draw distinctions between certain drugs and continue to leave alcohol and nicotine out of the discussion then we might as well just give up. As long as taking 15 shots of Vodka is acceptable and doing a line of coke is not then we have a major problem - these things are both incredibly destructive.

Thank you, by the way, for offering the case of the fencer. It seems rules are not always rules...

The reason I don't consider this a "Doping" case, even though the TECHNICAL definition of "doping" applies here is because it is fairly possible that this was not done with the intention of gaining an advantage on the volleyball court. If he took Cocaine to help him while playing then I will support a harsher sentence and have no problem calling this "doping". If this was something that happened while out at a club or with friends several days (or even weeks) before then I don't consider it a "doping" case.

Think about the intentions of setting up a "doping" control in the first place. The idea is to stop cheaters from gaining an unfair advantage. I hope the idea is not to look into the private lives of athletes and punish them for not living a safe, healthy life. So, if we're punishing Daniel for living a life that is not considered fit for an athlete then we need to look at ourselves and see if that's really the point. So, dumb mistake - yes. "Doping" - no. Not by my definition, and that, of course, is the point of me having a blog, to be able to express my personal opinion.

Chad, glad to hear from you. Don't even get me started on why Marijuana would be included on a doping list. In fact, I encourage all of my future opponents to smoke as much hash before we play against them as possible. Please, get as "doped" up as you want... But another good point, even in the Olympics the rules don't seem to be rules! I also think it would be a great idea to have Daniel talk with kids, etc... Take lemons and make lemonade.

Anonymous said...

Eller også er det netop udtryk for at regler er regler. At fægteren ikke får 2 år og en i stedet en advarsel er vel udtryk at reglerne er mere nuanceret end i udlægger det og at man får sin dag i retten til at bevidst sin "uskyld"

Anonymous said...

Hej,

Bare lige et spørgsmål..
Har søg over alt på nettet omkring hvor lang tid Kokain kan vises i prøven, og finder alt fra 2 dage til 3 uger.
Nogen af jer der kender svaret??

Må indrømme at jeg synes det er ekstra dumt hvis det kun bliver i kroppen 2 dage, og det vil sige at det er taget samme weekend som finalen. Så synes jeg faktisk det er et pisse på holdet hvis Daniel har været så meget i byen samme weekend som finalen.

Og lige en sidste kommentar.. Samtlige undersøgelser viser altså at sådan noget med at smide stoffer i drinks så godt som aldrig sker. Stoffer er simpelthen for dyre, for svære at opløse i væsken og for svære at dosere.
Men dette kan jo være en af de få gange....

DIEGO said...

Hej Jordan,
nice long post and I'd like to add few comments.

RULES ARE RULES:
Everyone knows (or can easly find out) what substances can be considered Doping or not.
If you want to play sport and take part in competitions, you have to follow those rules. If you don't agree with them, you complain before getting caught, or you don't take part to them: JUST AS SIMPLE.

You insisted a lot on what has to be considerd doping and what can be a free time activity.
Drinking beer and vodka are not considered doping, but (abusing)drinking too much coffee, is considered doping as well (Gianni Bugno in cycling tested positive for coffeine);
I don't remember who it was but a player tested positive becasue he just touched a cream which it had to be used by his kids who were sick (cream subscribed by a doctor);
most of the times it's not relevant if a substance helps you during games and most of the doping rules are common to a lot of sports: may be in some sports beeing "high" would increase your performances (I don't think volley is the case), but if experts and specialists say that cocaine can improve physical performances, I believe what they say because they know more than me on that.

Another thing, Daniel may be suspended to any competition for 2 years, but I doubt he would be banned to take part in practises or playing any sport with friends, or just doing weight liftings.
Think about Adrian MUTU, who tested positive for cocaine when he was playing for Chelsea: after few months Juventus bought him and he never stopped practising until his suspenction expired.

To bring my comment to an end, if there is something to discuss is if 2 years are too much or not.
Anytime someone plays sports must know what the consequences of mis-behaviour are. If you do not accept the rules, no one forces you to keep playing!!!

Jordan said...

Hey, just a couple of replies. I want to reiterate, and maybe I didn't do a good enough job making this clear in my post, I don't consider this a "doping" case. And that is by far the biggest distinction I am making. I don't doubt that cocaine could help a player's performance if taken immediately before a match. (And I mean immediately, not just before warm-ups but right before the line-ups are announced, because cocaine only works for about an hour or two max.) But what I am saying is that it is fairly clear that this is not about that. It was not about getting an unfair advantage. It was about doing something in private. Very possibly something dumb, but, and now I'm being as honest as possible, something that has nothing to do with me or you. When you guys argue that an athlete should be held to a higher standard of health and personal conduct I think you are wrong. This is my personal opinion, so there isn't much to argue really, I'm just stating my feelings. As far as I'm concerned, eating a Big Mac and drinking a couple of beers is just as destructive to one's body but these things are not stigmatized by society.

Yes, you can test positive for caffeine. But you have to have taken massive amounts just before a race in order to test positive. The test is not designed to see if you've had a cup of coffee four days ago and to punish you for it. The caffeine in this case is also being used to enhance performance in cycling so it can be considered "doping".

Also, if you consider rules to be rules, then you would also be in favor of Daniel spending time in jail. Cocaine is after all, against the law.

As far as the question about testing. The tests look for metabolites in the body that "digest" the cocaine. These stay in the body much longer than the actual cocaine. In this way, they can detect if someone has taken the drug in the last few weeks.

Kinger said...

my two cents...
no drug law has ever actually decreased the use of illegal drugs. If you look back in history most drug laws were created to oppress minority groups. I am against punishment and pro education. Most drugs aren't actually that bad for you physiologically, it is the lifestyle that goes with it that is dangerous.
*i am in no way advocating for the use of drugs* these are just some interesting facts that i read about.

Anonymous said...

this blog entry is more fun when you hum "a long...and...sca-ttered..pooost" to the tune of the beatles' "a long and winding road" whilst reading it