Thursday, February 07, 2008
New School/Old School!
I thought I would pass along a few things I found interesting:
I don't know if anyone out there would find this interesting, but for comparison's sake, there are some good quality videos from the boys "18 and Under" level at the most recent US national championships at a site called: www.middlehitter.com. There is a bar running across the top of the page and in the sub-menu under "Video" there is a listing for USAV Junior. Click on 2007 JO Open Championship and let the video load.
Admittedly, these are some of the best players in the country, but I think it is worth a look if there is anyone out there wondering what the difference in level is between Danish/European youth players/teams and those that come from the American system. I understand there are differences in why/how much/how youth sports are built up in the US and Europe, but it might be interesting for some out there to see what kind of level these kids are playing at. I personally think it is pretty impressive. It's also interesting to see the different styles of play. The orange team is from St. Louis (A team from the middle of the country) and they play a more typical, international style. Faster offense, more big, physical players and strong jump serves. The team in white is from the Pacific Palisades (A west coast team close to Malibu that I actually played for a long time ago when I was 16) they play a little bit more relaxed, slower tempo, smaller more ball control oriented players with a better feel for the game. In the US, the west coast has long dominated the volleyball scene, but, in recent years, the balance of power has slowly been shifting. I'm not sure, but this has to be one of the first times that a team from "back east" has won a Junior Olympic national volleyball championship.
I understand this may not interest everyone who reads this blog, but it interests me...
The other thing that I found FASCINATING was a little higher up on the video list, under the FIVB heading. 1981 Cuba vs. USA in the Canada Cup. Download the big file if you can, about 260mb but it is a complete set.
I don't really know how to feel about seeing something like this. I'm not sure if modern volleyball is even the same game anymore. It's just a whole different sport. If you don't feel like watching it on your own, I'll run you through some of the things I thought about while watching, in bullet form:
- It wasn't just Cuba that ran combinations on every play. The US did it also. Was the opposite just not that good/important back then?
-Could they run combinations on every play because they didn't know how to jump serve yet?
-But, then again, the middles were also passing at this point, so they couldn't expect perfect passing all the time right...right?
-Even if they weren't jump serving, those hook/windmill float serves look pretty nasty...
-With a really good hitter, is it better to just set high balls to the outside? The Cubans seemed pretty effective with their outsides.
-Didn't we switch to the colored ball because it was easier to see for the referees to call bad sets and for people watching on television to be able to see the ball? Well, it is easier to see the white ball than the colored ball, and since international referees pretty much don't ever call a bad set anymore, why did we switch?
-If you watch long enough, you'll see Tim Hovland standing in the US huddle during a timeout with an actual glass of water. Not plastic and not a bottle, but an actual glass of water which he then hands to the trainer to be cleaned after the time out.
-The tempo of the game is quicker. I don't mean the volleyball, I mean the time in between plays is shorter. Players run back to the service line and serve quickly. As a result, the game moves faster for the fans watching.
-Everyone plays defense. I miss this aspect of the game.
-I'd give a substantial amount of money to get one of those long sleeved, red, Cuba jerseys. Those things are nice!
-Somehow, I get the sense that these teams were more willing to experiment, and more able to make adjustments on the fly during the game. One of the outside hitters makes a dig on a shirt tip in position 2/3 area and can't get back outside to hit. So, the setter just sets the back row C to one of the middles who crushes it. I feel like in today's game the opposite is such a bigger factor, they hit so many garbage balls out of the back and front row that it effectively kill the creativity showcased by that one play. Not saying it's a bad thing, I just think it is interesting to see how much the opposite position has developed over the years.
-Is it just me, or do most of the Cubans look like Castro?
In any case, I was 1 year old when this match was played. I'm taken aback by the changes in the game during my lifetime. I'm not sure you could argue any other sport has developed as much in that time period...
And yes, that is Tom Selleck (#14) on the left side of that picture.
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6 comments:
Jordan...
Wow dude that USA Cuba match was pretty interesting to watch. Thanks for posting that site.
Also looks like you guys are dominating this year good luck with the rest of the season.
Ricky
Hey Jordan
Just wanted to say "great stuff" before you move on to more serious issues.
Did you see the link that Ole Schmidt posted to the Italy-Cuba world championship final of 1990?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nErc2IHSL_c
That's also pretty cool and shows how the game had evolved quite a bit already by then. Notice how the Cubans set EVERY single ball to Despaigne.
In www.volleyballmovies.pl you can find other links, for example part of the final set of the 1996 Olympic final.
Great Blog Jordan.. never seen so much in depth commentary on Volleyball in my life. :-)
Thanks for your comment
I appologize if the humoristic tone does not come out clearly in my post. It is ment as a remark to the jury that has ruled us as a looser 3-0 (25-0), not to point fingers enywhere else.
I will remove it, not cuz I dont see the humor in the situation, but cuz others may not....
I hope for everyones best intrest, that the B-test show a negative result and that our sport remains clean.
Joakim
I appreciate it and I admit, I'm probably a little too sensitive about the whole thing right now.
I also hope that the sport remains clean...
Good luck with the rest of your matches, you guys looked great against Aarhus.
every once in a while i dig through some of yr old posts...
even though i haven't watched the match myself, this weblog posting is fantastic.
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